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Post by obmj4eva on Dec 20, 2021 13:33:07 GMT -5
They rap like they're watching pretentious art films on mute with the subtitles on and just taking bits of dialogue and then making it rhyme.
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Post by tippi on Dec 20, 2021 16:06:17 GMT -5
I really don't see how it's hard to at least grasp the thread of what woods and elucid are talking about on haram unless you literally aren't willing to put the smallest amount of effort in. It's probably the most accessible out of any album they've ever put out. If people don't want to put the time and effort in I get that argument (it's music not a book, it's entertainment, it's supposed to be fun) but takes like these always end up coming across as more pretentious than any album i've ever heard lol.
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Post by obmj4eva on Dec 20, 2021 17:33:11 GMT -5
Yeah, uh
Fortification, falling away from spaces that don't serve
A sacred purge, extracted herbs, smacked
Knew the song, but couldn't sing the words
Still up at dawn, shifting forms, new resolve, guns go off
Guns go off, smoke and fire, light and sound
My new name colonizers can't pronounce
Bounce per ounce, more, what counts?
Kill your landlord, no doubt
Asymmetric, unconventional extremists
Make meaning, cream zenith
Lead with my left, beam freedom
World passport, blood pleadin'
Sick and shut in, signs and wonders
You don't have to be here if you don't wanna
You ain't gotta be here if you don't wanna
That Elucid's verse on the second track. What's your take on the deeper meaning of that?
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Post by obmj4eva on Dec 20, 2021 17:35:23 GMT -5
A lot of it seems like wannabe Ghostface rhymes with the non-sequiturs but Ghost could actually pull of that style where I feel like these guys fall flat with it. Just not for me.
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Post by tippi on Dec 20, 2021 17:58:20 GMT -5
to me it's just about general purpose, freedom, revolution, and autonomy. kinda like a mantra. works for me too since the song is short enough to loop over and over.
there's all these (sometimes false) limitations in place and imaginary barriers in your path. make your own meaning. beam freedom. change your name, define yourself. i interpret world passport as meaning you technically have the capability to go anywhere on the planet, but most don't even if they're financially stable enough to. most of us know that call to action or that desire for something greater and can't even begin to articulate it because it seems so far out of reach.
i also don't really see either of their styles as being that close to ghostface, but to each their own.
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Post by obmj4eva on Dec 20, 2021 18:27:03 GMT -5
Good breakdown of the lyrics. I can respect that but yeah it's just not for me. I've heard random tracks by them over the years and just couldn't really get into it. Some of Billy Woods solo s**t I've been able to f**k with, but Elucid's just never done anything for me.
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Post by gino888 on Dec 20, 2021 19:04:22 GMT -5
Perhaps u can go back to ur discord tipperoo. How about seeing someone elses side of things just once u long winded guy you. Seriously its mumble rap and it is pretentious. Who cares if thers a following I personally don't like MY rap to sound this way. And when u pass it off as art or charge crazy u can def go f**k yourself cuz 9 outta 10 people can do what u do. Thers only so many philosphers in rap, just like thers only so many actual good voices in country music. The rest of the time any degenerate white guy with a geeetar can make a country ballad and any retard off the syrup can make a rap song. Armand hammer f**king sucks. Except and respect my opinion. This isn't Baptist church where u turn a f****t. U will not make a believer out of me that this is good.
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Post by obmj4eva on Dec 20, 2021 19:47:50 GMT -5
^Or you know, that.
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Post by tippi on Dec 20, 2021 20:54:37 GMT -5
Perhaps u can go back to ur discord tipperoo. How about seeing someone elses side of things just once u long winded guy you. Seriously its mumble rap and it is pretentious. Who cares if thers a following I personally don't like MY rap to sound this way. And when u pass it off as art or charge crazy u can def go f**k yourself cuz 9 outta 10 people can do what u do. Thers only so many philosphers in rap, just like thers only so many actual good voices in country music. The rest of the time any degenerate white guy with a geeetar can make a country ballad and any retard off the syrup can make a rap song. Armand hammer f**king sucks. Except and respect my opinion. This isn't Baptist church where u turn a f****t. U will not make a believer out of me that this is good. Man, it works both ways and I barely even typed a paragraph. You tend to not actually explain your side of things in a way that's not filled to the brim with hyperbole right out the gate (mumble rap) so how can you expect me to see where youre coming from when it seems like there's not any real basis for it beyond "i don't like this so it sucks". Just flinging s**t for the sake of it. I'm not trying to make a believer out of you though, and I know you couldn't give a s**t either way. It's all good. At least me and obmj4eva had a nice lil back n forth here. |
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Post by Nightrider on Dec 21, 2021 3:50:54 GMT -5
I was revisiting The Course Of The Inevitable and after the second listening it didn't seem as bad as the first time I heard it....wounder what is your take about this 'new'Lloyd Banks's album? TOP10 yay or nay?
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Post by gino888 on Dec 21, 2021 11:48:54 GMT -5
At least I'm checking a good portion of ur favs tippi. I doubt ud do the same. Currently listening to "Pray for Haiti"
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Post by gino888 on Dec 21, 2021 12:04:10 GMT -5
I wanna say mach and Gunn drag words where woods and earl mumble. Big difference. That said Pray for Haiti was solid. The opener "The 26th Letter" was the best I heard mach in a min. All 3 joints with gunn were dope but "Murder Czn" mach sounded like dumb a** wyclef. The track with fahim was also dope. And the closer "Ten Boxes-Sin Eater" was nice to. Maybe AOTY but if it is its definitely been a weak 2021.
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Post by tippi on Dec 21, 2021 12:06:42 GMT -5
Why do you doubt that? I'd listen to anyone's favorite albums of the year, whole point of these threads for me is to see what I was missing out on
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Post by gino888 on Dec 21, 2021 14:41:18 GMT -5
As far as I've ever seen u don't miss much. Ur prolly the only surviving member of the old ughh that keeps up with this s**t that closely. I'd like to believe ud listen to papoose or lloyd banks.
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Post by tippi on Dec 21, 2021 15:30:27 GMT -5
It gets more and more difficult to keep up each year but I still try to listen to as much as I can, and I don't really see that stopping anytime soon at least. I listened to the papoose ep from a few weeks ago which was ok but the Lloyd Banks album that dropped in June or July was legitimately great. First album he's dropped that can hold up to some of the mixtape stuff i've heard from him. No real complaints other than it being a lot of one thing for 68 minutes.
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Post by obmj4eva on Dec 21, 2021 17:04:08 GMT -5
Yeah that Banks album is tremendous. Easy Top 10 album of the year.
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Post by Nightrider on Dec 22, 2021 2:02:17 GMT -5
Yeah that Banks album is tremendous. Easy Top 10 album of the year. I like albums in general to grows on me...this one could be one. But I didn't get the hype when it was released  |
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Post by gino888 on Dec 23, 2021 5:16:01 GMT -5
So I listened to that Skyzoo album and was severely let down. The opening joint Free Jewelry is really good and then it goes down hill and I've always been a huge Sky fan. His soft stuff has run its course. He needs more in ur face "spitter" type tracks then these songwriter heart felt s**t with dollar bin r&b hooks. Whoever produced this is terrible as well and was prolly my biggest problem. The re-working of known samples didn't work. Beats we have heard a thousand times with a new jazz twist that made em corny to me and some annoying. Album sucked. Sky is getting really redundant.
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Post by skof on Dec 26, 2021 5:32:02 GMT -5
Nas - Magic
Little Simz - Introvert
Lloyd Banks - The Course of the Inevitable
WSG - HWH8
Dinner Party - Dinner Party
Kota The Friend - Lyrics To Go Vol 2
Lord Apex - Smoke Sessions Vol 3
AZ - Doe or Die 2
Scorzayzee = Verses Loops Vol 1 ep
Benny The Butcher - The Plugs I Met 2
Not a great year for hip hop. Not terrible. Nas>>>>
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Post by Aquilla on Dec 26, 2021 14:02:58 GMT -5
My fav and best albums of the year are:
Mach Hommy - Pray 4 Haiti
Patrick Paige II - If I Fail Are We Still Cool
Vince Staples - Vince Staples
Isaiah Rashad - The House Is Burning
Willie The Kid - Keep Watching The Fly
Nas - Magic
RJ Payne - Leatherface 3
Lute - Gold Mouf
Zack Fox - shut the f**k up talking to me
Kenny Mason - Angelic Hoodrat(SUPERCUT)
Denzel Curry - Unlocked 1.5
slowthai - TYRON
Big Pokey - SENSEI
Little Sims - Sometimes I Might Be Introvert
Mick Jenkins - Elephant In The. Room
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Post by rareform on Dec 26, 2021 21:24:05 GMT -5
the best album of the year from some youngster none of us know about .
dyme so out of the loop . saw a few titles from some familiar artists that stood out we’ll check for .
thanks for share’n .
- rareformdome
. peace’in .
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Post by LEX718 on Dec 27, 2021 12:27:39 GMT -5
I'll try listing my 10 favorites.. I liked a lot that I didn't really end up going back to too much which makes it hard to determine what I really think is the best..
Evidence - Unlearning Vol. 1
Skyzoo - All the Brilliant Things
Nas - Magic
Your Old Droog - Time
Fresh Daily - The Quiet Life Vol. 2
Ka - A Martyr's Reward
Mach-Hommy - Balens Cho
Navy Blue - Navy's Reprise
Milano x Showbiz - Eatin But Still Hungry
Ransom x Rome Streetz - Coup De Grace
25 Honorable mentions:
YOD & TGF - Tha Wolf on Wall Street
Th1rt3en - A Magnificent Day for an Exorcism
Breeze Brewin - Hindsight
Dillon x J57 - '83 Kids
Nolan - PS
Philmore Greene - Knowledge & Power
Wiki x Navy Blue - Half God
Rome Streetz x DJ Muggs - Death & The Magician
YOD & TGF - Tha YOD Fahim
Westside Gunn - HWH8 Side B
Lloyd Banks - Course of the Inevitable
Mach-Hommy - Pray for Haiti
Your Old Droog - Space Bar
Boldy James x Alchemist - Bo Jackson
Ransom x Big Ghost Ltd. - Heavy is the Head
Codenine - LVNDR
Sonnyjim x Kev Brown - A Joint Venture
Sonnyjim x Buckwild - Coke Le Roc
R.I.B.S. - Rikers Island Boxing School
Neek the Exotic x Large Professor - Xtra Exotic
Rim - Phresh Waves
Recognize Ali - Recognize tha Light
Common - A Beautiful Revolution pt. 2
Czarface x MF Doom - Super What?
DJ Muggs & Hologram - American Cheese
Favorite 10 EPs
Ransom - Se7en
Sean Boog - It's Midnight Somewhere Vol. 2
J. Arr x Nicholas Craven - Hoop Dreams
Dopplegangaz - G Pack Vol. 3
August Fanon x Defcee - We Dressed the City with Our Names
Brother Ali - Brother Minutester
Spit Gemz - Pardon My Poetry
Eff Yoo x Cole James Cash - Sunset on Sunset
Kurious x Ro Data - Koncrete Jungle
Rasheed Chappell x Reck Real - 15 Minutes in Queens
Top 5 Producer Compilations
Khrysis - The Hour of Khrysis
Bumpy Knuckles - Produced by Bumpy Knuckles
House Shoes - The Beer Tape
Wavy Da Ghawd- Ghawd's Eden
Alchemist - This Thing of Ours Vol. 1 & 2
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Post by eseph84 on Dec 27, 2021 14:16:39 GMT -5
nice lists lex
maybe thats what i will do these next few days as the year winds down. go thru al my releases from the past year and try and comprise a list. it used to be so much easier lol
i feel like i probably missed a lot this year, but i will rank up all the ones i got from this year and at least be able to figure out which ones were the best based off how much i played them.
their was certain months that were just dominated by certain releases. like whenever haram dropped that was non-stop for awhile. same with american cheese (don't judge lol). vegas vic. a bunch more...
yl jesus is my homeboy dominated, too, but that technically was released on dec 25 2021 which sucks cuz i didn't hear it til 2021 and was prob my aoty looking back lol. nothing compares to that ish besides other yl and starker releases for me lol lol
theravada xenophon too which dropped in jan 21.
those 3 guys and the wrecking crew killed it this year
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Post by Nightrider on Dec 28, 2021 1:29:47 GMT -5
LEX718 I see Th1rt3en didn't make your top10, no hard fillings lol but really is a great album!  skof : Little Simz > she is that good? Saw some twitter 'beef' about her and Sa-Roc on the other hand....Sa-Roc is super nice, sfe has one of the best albums last year!
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Post by Nightrider on Dec 28, 2021 1:31:22 GMT -5
OWWW and of course NAS and MAGIC also crack my TOP10, this album is his best with Hit-Boy  |
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Post by LEX718 on Dec 28, 2021 17:01:29 GMT -5
LEX718 I see Th1rt3en didn't make your top10, no hard fillings lol but really is a great album! No argument there.. I did add it to my honorable mentions. As much as I liked it, I really didn't find myself going back to it as often as I thought I would when I first heard it. My top 10 was all albums I could go back to regularly. Nas and the latest Mach-Hommy are sort or exceptions because they are recent but I really like both of them a lot. They hit me harder than most albums I've heard. There's a ton that I like a lot that didn't make these lists.. Listening to the Apollo Brown and Stalley right now which is definitely good enough to be in my honorable mentions at least. |
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Post by Nightrider on Dec 29, 2021 5:06:47 GMT -5
LEX718 I see Th1rt3en didn't make your top10, no hard fillings lol but really is a great album! No argument there.. I did add it to my honorable mentions. As much as I liked it, I really didn't find myself going back to it as often as I thought I would when I first heard it. My top 10 was all albums I could go back to regularly. Nas and the latest Mach-Hommy are sort or exceptions because they are recent but I really like both of them a lot. They hit me harder than most albums I've heard. There's a ton that I like a lot that didn't make these lists.. Listening to the Apollo Brown and Stalley right now which is definitely good enough to be in my honorable mentions at least. I appreciate this  I can't get into Mach-Hommy by no means lol. I likes Apollo&Stalley I think their album is definitely something to get back to... |
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Post by Nightrider on Dec 29, 2021 5:11:44 GMT -5
And I appreciate Guilty Simpson & Gensu Dean album called EGO. Nice chilled vibes
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Post by gino888 on Dec 29, 2021 11:57:43 GMT -5
Gensu dean is highly underrated beat maker. And I'm glad guilty broke out from the madlib buddy system and showed and proved a handful of times now. He's dope to
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Post by LEX718 on Dec 29, 2021 15:17:07 GMT -5
And I appreciate Guilty Simpson & Gensu Dean album called EGO. Nice chilled vibes Yeah, I bought this CD but haven't gotten back to it much. Thanks for the reminder. |
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