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Post by buckthadevil on Sept 3, 2023 22:11:39 GMT -5
Since the golden age is over and hip hop has been stuck in the dark ages for some time now, the criteria for what is “a great rapper” has been lowered so far down the scale that average rappers are being crowned kings and greatest of all times. It’s ridiculous to say the least.
Imma start with one of the most obvious “greats” that ain’t sht.
Little Wayne.
A child rapper similar to lil bow wow or kris Kross that has apparently dropped timeless classics like All Eyes On Me, The Chronic, Aquemini and Ready To Die.
No. He didn’t. He was a plant and people got force fed his music.
Add on. I’d love to hear about it.
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Post by gino888 on Sept 3, 2023 23:58:14 GMT -5
To keep it new Orleans themed and piss ya off lol. Currensy is my pick. Why, cuz he sucks. Its 1 am
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Post by Your Good Egg on Sept 5, 2023 0:27:05 GMT -5
I reckon Celph Titled.
Has some of the best punchlines and voice ever but...
He has some really s**t lines IMO and hasn't released an album in toooo long.
I'll probably get sprayed for this!
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Post by Your Good Egg on Sept 5, 2023 5:42:54 GMT -5
The reason Celph came to mind is because I've been listening to that U.G. Portals (like I mentioned in another thread).
This song comes on and I want to skip it, the chorus and the feature verse is weak and missed opportunity IMO.
"Yeah I have no remorse, tie you to a race car watch it go its course
the flow contorts and twists ya like a pretzel dough mixture"
Celph Titled plus U.G. equals total asphyxia"
That's just one.
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Post by murcielagomurray on Sept 5, 2023 6:32:42 GMT -5
Kendrick Lamar
J. Cole
Cordae
Top 3 most overrated currently. So many lesser known artists better than those guys.
As for Celph Titled, if anything he is underrated IMO.
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Post by buckthadevil on Sept 5, 2023 11:35:09 GMT -5
Rick Ross. I heard people talk about him having classics.
C minus rapper who wouldn’t stand out whatsoever in the 90s.
Agree with Kendrick being massively overrated too. He’s experimental, but let’s calm down. He’s not a top 20 rapper. If he’s as good as some people claim, those same people should look at Outkast like absolute gods.
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Post by eseph84 on Sept 5, 2023 12:20:38 GMT -5
lol lot of funny choices
can we say drake?
westside gunn maybe too. o i forgot he's soo coo lol
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Post by buckthadevil on Sept 5, 2023 15:12:40 GMT -5
Drake takes the crown for most overrated rapper of all time.
Hands down.
There are real people on this planet walking around saying Drake needs to be in the “top 5 doa” conversation.
What? Lol
No.
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Post by gino888 on Sept 5, 2023 21:54:55 GMT -5
They call drake Michael Jackson lol seriously wtf.
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Post by titooo7 on Sept 6, 2023 2:52:25 GMT -5
Way too many to mention. I'm not even going to spend time using my memory to name them all.
Most of them are. Some are overrated since day 1 and others are overrated because they made 1 very good album 5, 10 or 20 years ago and people still call them GOAT despite everything they did since then is average to bad
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Post by Your Good Egg on Sept 6, 2023 6:23:40 GMT -5
Flee Lord
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Post by buckthadevil on Sept 6, 2023 16:41:39 GMT -5
Not sure Flee Lord is what we’re going for here. He’s not even rated.
More like J-Cole or Lupe. Two dudes considered lyrical, yet they suck compared to most rappers that came before them.
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Post by ern on Sept 6, 2023 18:42:17 GMT -5
pretty much everything thats out in the mainstream comes to mind...
wayne, kendrick, cole, drake for sure..
i havent heard anyone rate lupe in years except for observe lol so i'd leave him out, he's ok..speaking of observe where he been at did he get locked up in jail, the psych ward, OD or cant pay his phone bill hopefully hes aight lol
my pick is jay-z. he's got classic s**t over the years but one of the most annoying d**k riding fan bases.. magna carta and 444 were pretentious wack garbage but fans will say the s**t is over alot people's heads and that detractors dont understand it maybe they "get it" in the future wtf.. s**t was just wack. talking about you have to buy a phone to get an album he did lol. definitely not the GOAT.
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Post by gino888 on Sept 7, 2023 1:53:27 GMT -5
I don't get the j.Cole or Kendrick s**t either.
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Post by cifus on Sept 8, 2023 10:07:27 GMT -5
J cole IMO isn't overrated at all. Great/ talented MC. He absolutely bodied Bennys Johnny P caddy track.
Kendrick can make a great album and a not so great album.
Drake - he's an entertainer and he bodied Common so that has to be worth something.
Myka 9, Chino XL are overrated . Talented but putting words together isn't enough to make a good rapper. Their voice and flows are for select ears / acquired taste.
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Post by Your Good Egg on Sept 8, 2023 20:19:26 GMT -5
I was thinking 21 Savage.
A few times I've read reviews of his stuff, like that he'd come into his own and stepped up, and then gone and listened to it, only to be let down.
Dude had an album with Drake didn't he so someone thinks he's worthy.
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Post by Aquilla on Sept 16, 2023 21:31:54 GMT -5
Lil Wayne. He'll have good verses from time to time but unfortunately it's not always the standard. Many of his songs are filled with mindless incoherent wordplay that makes no sense. The fact there were some people that claim that he carried Hip Hop/Rap from 2005-2009 says a lot of how dire and pathetic that era was. His influence on music has also been questionable and is the origin of some mumble rappers that have plagued the industry throughout the last 15 years. I'd also say that he's the reason the druggie archetypal image has been prevalent in Hip Hop those past years too. The rise of codeine usage has gotten big due to his mentioning of it.
I would also say T.I., Method Man, Meek Mill, Conway The Machine, and Andre 3000 are up there being overrated as well
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Post by gino888 on Sept 17, 2023 11:33:05 GMT -5
Def pathetic. 06-07 being the major Wayne yrs.
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Post by gino888 on Oct 3, 2023 11:21:23 GMT -5
I disagree about ross. I used to not even pay attn but I went back and he's ridiculously dope. A touch of a biggie biter but he's cool
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Post by diagrams on Oct 3, 2023 12:41:19 GMT -5
Nas and Black Thought
Nas hasn’t been dope since illmatic
Black Thought hasn’t been since The Roots “How I Got Over”
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Post by diagrams on Oct 3, 2023 12:45:29 GMT -5
Lil Wayne. He'll have good verses from time to time but unfortunately it's not always the standard. Many of his songs are filled with mindless incoherent wordplay that makes no sense. The fact there were some people that claim that he carried Hip Hop/Rap from 2005-2009 says a lot of how dire and pathetic that era was. His influence on music has also been questionable and is the origin of some mumble rappers that have plagued the industry throughout the last 15 years. I'd also say that he's the reason the druggie archetypal image has been prevalent in Hip Hop those past years too. The rise of codeine usage has gotten big due to his mentioning of it. I would also say T.I., Method Man, Meek Mill, Conway The Machine, and Andre 3000 are up there being overrated as well Yea Method man is overrated , I was listening to Wu Forever yesterday and his flow and his lyrics weren’t that good , he was just rhyming words |
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Post by buckthadevil on Oct 3, 2023 13:27:32 GMT -5
Nas and Black Thought Nas hasn’t been dope since illmatic Black Thought hasn’t been since The Roots “How I Got Over” Two rappers widely considered by their own peers to be the nicest to ever rhyme would not fit into the “overrated” category. You may feel that way because you listen to high school girl rap and watch cartoons on your phone in a cardboard box. Intellectual black males threaten you so your only method of fighting back is hate and troll sht. It’s your life and what you make of it. |
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Post by diagrams on Oct 3, 2023 13:35:16 GMT -5
Nas and Black Thought Nas hasn’t been dope since illmatic Black Thought hasn’t been since The Roots “How I Got Over” Two rappers widely considered by their own peers to be the nicest to ever rhyme would not fit into the “overrated” category. You may feel that way because you listen to high school girl rap and watch cartoons on your phone in a cardboard box. Intellectual black males threaten you so your only method of fighting back is hate and troll sht. It’s your life and what you make of it. Go somewhere troll |
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Post by buckthadevil on Oct 4, 2023 22:09:17 GMT -5
It’s like….. what’s the definition of overrated?
Can we agree that if something’s fantastic and you ask 100 semi-intelligent people and 99 of em go “Yes. It’s fkn GREAT!” it doesn’t have to be overrated?
Is pizza overrated? How bout blowjobs?
you know what I’m sayin? point of this thread is that as time goes by, wack sht is being put on a pedestal.
I mean you got Barack Obama listening to Kendrick Lamar going “this young man is the dopest sht Black America has ever heard!”
This mfkr never heard no Public Enemy???
It’s crazy how wack sht is dope and dope sht is wack now for real. Not saying Kendrick Lamar is WACK. But I swear I’ve heard people say sht like him or J Cole are top 5 DOA. TOP 5??? Do you know how many incredible rappers you have to get past to be TOP 50???
Them 2 mfkrs are wild overrated. Along with just about everybody else tryin to rap now. It’s idiocracy and borderline lunatic.It’s like people been eating lunch room cheeseburgers for so long that when you give ‘em steak they’re like “Nah. That’s garbage”.
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Post by diagrams on Oct 5, 2023 17:09:38 GMT -5
Public Enemy is trash listen to some X Clan who were better and didn’t get popular cuz they weren’t sell outs like Public Enemy making “Rebel Music”
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Post by buckthadevil on Oct 5, 2023 17:11:53 GMT -5
X Clan was cool but they weren’t PE. GTFOH lol
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Post by gino888 on Oct 7, 2023 13:19:07 GMT -5
Benny
Pusha t
Freddie Gibbs
Currensy
Coke and weed raps blah
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Post by Grayscale on Oct 13, 2023 14:06:10 GMT -5
Probably somebody like NBA Youngboy.
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Post by Grayscale on Oct 13, 2023 14:17:00 GMT -5
Young Thug too.
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Post by Grayscale on Oct 13, 2023 14:18:50 GMT -5
Lil Uzi Vert
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