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Post by Clockworx on Dec 29, 2016 21:57:14 GMT -5
 I know the popular pick is going to be Westbrook because of the insane amount of triple doubles he's had so far this year. But Harden averaging 27.7 ppg, 11.9 apg, and 7.8 rpg while leading a team that was a disaster last year to a 24-9 record and 3 seed in the west. Plus i got him on my fantasy basketball team so there's a little bias going on too. But for real he stepped his f**king assist game up like crazy. And he got some triple doubles of his own this year. Someone give me an argument against and besides Westbrook and Harden who else even in the discussion? Durant? That'd be about it. Glad Curry falling little bit back down to Earth this year. Lulz at him getting benched looking like a b***h with a towel over his face for Kyrie's game winner. |
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Post by billy ray on Dec 29, 2016 22:28:10 GMT -5
It's more than the insane amount of triple doubles he's had this year tho, it's the fact that he's AVERAGING a triple double AND leading the league in scoring.
If he can finish the season averaging the trip dub, you have to give him the MVP.
It's only been done once in league history and it's arguably the most revered single season individual record, so...
Not to mention they lost a top 5 player, and are still a very formidable team. I think they're the 4th or 5th seed right now.
But yeah it's gonna be a two horse race between him and Harden. Lebron should always be in the conversation tho.
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Post by nws1ne on Dec 29, 2016 22:28:14 GMT -5
Pretty obvious, it's Lebron. But they'll makes some bulls**t argument and not give the best player on the planet. Jordan lost to Barkley and Malone and since then, the award lost all of its luster. Kobe lost to Steve Nash twice and Derrick Rose, lol. MVP in the NBA is a joke.
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Post by billy ray on Dec 29, 2016 22:42:47 GMT -5
The Lakers didnt even make the playoffs and were something like 15 games under .500 the year Nash won his first MVP. But you think Kobe should have won the award?
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Post by nws1ne on Dec 29, 2016 22:59:56 GMT -5
Shaq should have won it that year. He was still the best player on the planet. Steve Nash was the media darling.
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Post by Clockworx on Dec 29, 2016 23:09:56 GMT -5
I think Shaqs first year on The Heat was the first year Nash won MVP. Lakers were garbage that year and Suns won 60 games. Only way a player on even a .500 team wins MVP in the NBA is if their stats are historical. Like averaging triple double or averaging 40 points per game historical.
I know Westbrook would probably receive all the first place votes if season ended today. Just wanted to show some love to Harden as he's elevated his game to a new level under D'Antoni. Got 6 triple doubles and was a rebound or two away from another 3 of them. Neither one of them have a Robin to their Batman either. Eric Gordon is finally healthy and has stepped his game up but he's still not a superstar caliber guy.
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Post by billy ray on Dec 29, 2016 23:35:20 GMT -5
Yeah Nash's first MVP season was Shaq's first year in Miami, as well as Nash's first year in Phoenix. The Suns had the best record in the L that year, after having I think the 3rd worst record the year prior, without Nash. Meanwhile Shaq didnt even lead his team in scoring and wasnt even top 5 in the L in rebounding. I'm not saying a case couldnt be made for him to win the award that year, but Nash was def more than just the media darling. He put in some serious work that season.
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Post by nws1ne on Dec 29, 2016 23:49:32 GMT -5
Nash was 4th in scoring on his own team that year. Media darling.
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Post by nws1ne on Dec 29, 2016 23:53:59 GMT -5
Back to my original point...making a valuable argument is stupid. Jordan was the best player, but the media got sick of giving him the award so they changed the rules. Now Derrick Rose has one. Lebron s**ts on Harden and Westbrook, but he's not even mentioned. It's a joke.
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Post by billy ray on Dec 30, 2016 0:28:27 GMT -5
Nash was a pass first PG that led the league in assists and the first to average over 11 a game since John Stockton. Not to mention being the leader on the 4th biggest team turnaround in NBA history and spearheading the 2nd best offensive team in league history. But yeah he was just a media darling.
Anyways, I'm not gonna disagree that the MVP award has become somewhat suspect over the years. Especially considering Shaq and Kobe only have one a piece, wich is pretty ridiculous, but Nash deserved his first MVP award as far as I'm concerned. I don't know about the second one.
And if Westbrook makes history by averaging the trip dub this year, wich is a pretty remarkable feat to say the least, it wouldnt be that far fetched for him to take home the award.
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Post by Clockworx on Dec 30, 2016 16:43:28 GMT -5
If Westbrook averages a triple double then he'll be a unanimous winner and it won't even be close.
I agree it was a coin flip between Nash and Shaq that year. If i remember correctly it was a close a** vote too.
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Post by Clockworx on Dec 30, 2016 22:54:44 GMT -5
Harden another triple double tonight (30, 13, and 10) as The Rockets hung 140 on The Clips 😂😂😂
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Post by Clockworx on Jan 1, 2017 0:33:10 GMT -5
Hardens line tonight was f**king GODLY - 53 points, 17 assists, 16 rebounds. First player to ever have a 50/15/15 triple double  Yo Luke you think he's leapfrogged Westbrook after the last two nights? |
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Post by billy ray on Jan 1, 2017 5:26:59 GMT -5
Nah I still got Westbrook ahead of him, but it's getting tighter yes h**o
53-17-16 is bananas tho. holy s**t.
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Post by Clockworx on Jan 1, 2017 11:42:35 GMT -5
I still got him a notch ahead of Westbrook not only because of him putting up those historical numbers but he's also continuing to make those around him better. Plus they continue to win (won 15 of last 17 games). They haven't scored less than 100 points since November 21st. I know it's a small sample size but D'antoni and Harden together is one of the more perfect coach/player fits over the last few years.
Tied Wilt last night for most points scored in a triple double. And it was on the second night of back to backs. Dude is f**king balling. Was chucking up 3's from Currys range and hitting them. Glad it happened against the Knicks too lulz. Never been a fan of em even tho i live in their demo.
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Post by billy ray on Jan 1, 2017 12:11:29 GMT -5
Westbrook had a triple double in the first half last night....  Nah but Harden's performace was definitely one for the ages. No doubt. |
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Post by Clockworx on Jan 1, 2017 13:13:43 GMT -5
Westbrook had a triple double in the first half last night.... Did he really? That's f**king nuts. Lebron, KD, etc are all a distance third in the MVP race at this point. No one playing on the same level as these dudes. And to think Westbrook, Harden, and KD were on the same team a few years ago. Crazy. Did Thunder at least win the game? Obviously i can take 5 seconds to look but feeling lazy right now. |
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Post by billy ray on Jan 1, 2017 13:17:55 GMT -5
yeah they won. it was a blowout. clippers were without paul and griffin tho. westbrook only played 28 minutes.
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Post by Clockworx on Jan 1, 2017 13:21:09 GMT -5
That's kinda similar to Harden against Clips few nights ago. Think he played 34 minutes when he got his triple double.
You think Golden State/Cavs and no one else got a chance to meet in Finals like most predicted before season started?
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Post by billy ray on Jan 1, 2017 13:28:32 GMT -5
pretty much. i'll be happy if the raps can make it to the conference finals again, but i dont see them beating cleveland.
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Post by Soc Hamf on Jan 1, 2017 14:44:55 GMT -5
Jfc at that line
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2017 16:46:01 GMT -5
watched a bit of the okc game yesterday, its weird watching a player pad their stats like that. but i'd give it to russ
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Post by Clockworx on Jan 2, 2017 22:34:41 GMT -5
Harden with his third triple double in a row tonight (23, 10, 10) in a Rockets win over The Wizards |
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Post by billy ray on Jan 2, 2017 23:05:34 GMT -5
OKC dropping in the standings. That's not gonna help Westbrook's cause.
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Post by thornside on Jan 3, 2017 0:31:24 GMT -5
Harden or KD
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Post by eseph84 on Feb 3, 2023 13:36:57 GMT -5
Donovan!
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Post by nws1ne on Feb 3, 2023 13:55:59 GMT -5
Embiid!
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Post by lamson’s w33d connect on Feb 3, 2023 16:27:38 GMT -5
 the human battering ram |
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Post by diagrams on Feb 4, 2023 1:12:41 GMT -5
Why didn’t Steph win emveepee this year? I don’t watch TV but he needs to win
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Post by eseph84 on Feb 6, 2023 7:19:35 GMT -5
you da real mvp!
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