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Post by pigeonmike on Jul 24, 2023 23:21:16 GMT -5
Ill do you one solid bro
For a mastering engineer to make something grand the foundation has to already be grand
Thats simply not the case here
The ONLY thing beatwise the mastering did well was have the subkick sounding clean
The facts are, foundation is lacking, lemme break it down:
The sound design of the Rolands and other drum machines of that era requires a lot of EQ, layering and stereofield enhancing to beef em up. Also, understanding basic compression is key. The drums on here sound thin and cheap
Westcoast beats, as Im sure you know, is oftentimes based on (mostly) original compositions, made from a variety of sources, mainly drawing inspiration from late funk, electro and rnb - key here is having a good ear for melodies and knowing what hard/soft synths to go with to achieve the vision, combined w aforementioned knowledge of mixing. The melody on here is basic and again, the sounds are thin and cheap
Go study some Battlecat, Quik, Focus, Daz, Dre, Storch, Khalil and put another 10.000 hrs in, and your s**t will bang universally eventually
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Post by sccit on Jul 24, 2023 23:26:14 GMT -5
Ill do you one solid bro For a mastering engineer to make something grand the foundation has to already be grand Thats simply not the case here The ONLY thing beatwise the mastering did well was have the subkick sounding clean The facts are, foundation is lacking, lemme break it down: The sound design of the Rolands and other drum machines of that era requires a lot of EQ, layering and stereofield enhancing to beef em up. Also, understanding basic compression is key. The drums on here sound thin and cheap Westcoast beats, as Im sure you know, is oftentimes based on (mostly) original compositions, made from a variety of sources, mainly drawing inspiration from late funk, electro and rnb - key here is having a good ear for melodies and knowing what hard/soft synths to go with to achieve the vision, combined w aforementioned knowledge of mixing. The melody on here is basic and again, the sounds are thin and cheap Go study some Battlecat, Quik, Focus, Daz, Dre, Storch, Khalil and put another 10.000 hrs in, and your s**t will bang universally eventually i didn’t make this beat .. but it absolutely bangs and definitely not “thin & cheap” did u listen in a system? |
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Post by pigeonmike on Jul 24, 2023 23:29:21 GMT -5
Ill do you one solid bro For a mastering engineer to make something grand the foundation has to already be grand Thats simply not the case here The ONLY thing beatwise the mastering did well was have the subkick sounding clean The facts are, foundation is lacking, lemme break it down: The sound design of the Rolands and other drum machines of that era requires a lot of EQ, layering and stereofield enhancing to beef em up. Also, understanding basic compression is key. The drums on here sound thin and cheap Westcoast beats, as Im sure you know, is oftentimes based on (mostly) original compositions, made from a variety of sources, mainly drawing inspiration from late funk, electro and rnb - key here is having a good ear for melodies and knowing what hard/soft synths to go with to achieve the vision, combined w aforementioned knowledge of mixing. The melody on here is basic and again, the sounds are thin and cheap Go study some Battlecat, Quik, Focus, Daz, Dre, Storch, Khalil and put another 10.000 hrs in, and your s**t will bang universally eventually i didn’t make this beat .. but it absolutely bangs and definitely not “thin & cheap” did u listen in a system? I give up man, have at it |
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Post by sccit on Jul 24, 2023 23:31:58 GMT -5
i didn’t make this beat .. but it absolutely bangs and definitely not “thin & cheap” did u listen in a system? I give up man, have at it have at what? i asked a question and u didn’t answer you’re telling me what to do and who to study like i made the beat dude who did the beat (siccraised) is a master on the drums and has been making beats for 25+ years ….. so 2 questions… 1.did u listen in a system? and 2.do you produce? |
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Post by pigeonmike on Jul 24, 2023 23:34:15 GMT -5
I give up man, have at it have at what? i asked a question and u didn’t answer you’re telling me what to do and who to study like i made the beat dude who did the beat (siccraised) is a master on the drums and has been making beats for 25+ years ….. so 2 questions… 1.did u listen in a system? and 2.do you produce? 1. Studio setting 2. Yes |
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Post by sccit on Jul 24, 2023 23:36:15 GMT -5
have at what? i asked a question and u didn’t answer you’re telling me what to do and who to study like i made the beat dude who did the beat (siccraised) is a master on the drums and has been making beats for 25+ years ….. so 2 questions… 1.did u listen in a system? and 2.do you produce? 1. Studio setting 2. Yes oh yea, now i remember you’re the dude who asked me to submit some tracks for your internet project but didn’t have a number to call me from appreciate u checkin us brodie 🫡 💯 |
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Post by sccit on Jul 24, 2023 23:38:34 GMT -5
pigeonmike where can i hear some of your work fam??
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Post by pigeonmike on Jul 24, 2023 23:44:17 GMT -5
pigeonmike where can i hear some of your work fam?? My work is all over the internet project aka the UGHH community mixtape lol Where can I hear yours? |
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Post by sccit on Jul 24, 2023 23:47:41 GMT -5
pigeonmike where can i hear some of your work fam?? My work is all over the internet project aka the UGHH community mixtape lol Where can I hear yours? i think you’ve heard mine bruh.. u even commented in a few of the threads.. i produced the entire fatlip album “torpor” and made all the beats outside of 2 joints where can i hear a joint u did on the UGHH mixtape fam .. can you link me? |
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Post by pigeonmike on Jul 24, 2023 23:54:49 GMT -5
My work is all over the internet project aka the UGHH community mixtape lol Where can I hear yours? i think you’ve heard mine bruh.. u even commented in a few of the threads.. i produced the entire fatlip album “torpor” and made all the beats outside of 2 joints where can i hear a joint u did on the UGHH mixtape fam .. can you link me? |
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Post by pigeonmike on Jul 25, 2023 0:06:33 GMT -5
My work is all over the internet project aka the UGHH community mixtape lol Where can I hear yours? i think you’ve heard mine bruh.. u even commented in a few of the threads.. i produced the entire fatlip album “torpor” and made all the beats outside of 2 joints where can i hear a joint u did on the UGHH mixtape fam .. can you link me? I know I did comment on your posts, I always congratulate fellow artists and forum members on new releases, its a beautiful thing |
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Post by sccit on Jul 25, 2023 2:07:31 GMT -5
i think you’ve heard mine bruh.. u even commented in a few of the threads.. i produced the entire fatlip album “torpor” and made all the beats outside of 2 joints where can i hear a joint u did on the UGHH mixtape fam .. can you link me? I know I did comment on your posts, I always congratulate fellow artists and forum members on new releases, its a beautiful thing i salute u for doin what u doin homie, real talk. i been there.. i put together my own netcee compilation called “dubcc presents one love” back on the dubcc forums circa 2002… creativity don’t have a ceiling, keep your foot on the gas but i’m sure you can see what we doin is a bit different in terms of the quality and level of mixing and mastering, right? lol..i checked what you doin and it’s cool, you gota keep buildin on that my dude as for the track, what you hearing in that siccraised beat that u call “thin” is the crisp snap that makes it slap in the whip .. it’s a staple of west coast production .. the entire beat is simply hard hitting drums that pound u in the chest over a sample….that’s why i asked if you bumped it in a proper system, as you will not get the true experience on a phone or studio monitors .. now here is the one beat jellyroll did on the fatlip project for the pharcyde that has a similar type crisp (“thin” lol) snare nothing cheap about it .. it’s intentionally EQed that way to give it that pizzazz not being egotistical here but i do think i can help u out a bit if u willin to listen .. i checked your beats on that netcee project and that signature snare you use lacks that crispiness we talkin bout. that s**t that makes a track slap when u listen to it loud in a good system.. which is ok with east coast production but yours is a bit on the hollow side. what i suggest if you goin for that vintage east coast snare more suited for headphones is to mess with the eqing, try out some reverbs, layer it with other snares and play with the panning etc. til you get a more full sound, because those hollow east coast snares DO NOT sound good without the proper support if u wana keep it simple without the added layering then you actually do need to go for the “thin” sound ala Dr. Dre i duno if u can put your ego aside and truly try to gain off this convo or just come back wit a defensive retort, but i’m bein 100 percent real wit u brother .. i can learn off anyone, so everything said to me is taken from that perspective. but there is A LOT to be gained here for you and if you wana continue this convo in terms of building u can always hit me on dm 💯 🫡 |
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Post by pigeonmike on Jul 25, 2023 3:33:51 GMT -5
Oh yeah doin community music projects is always an experience, takes a lotta ressources but its well worth it in the end
And you turning the tables on me lol
Look, I give out mixing advice, I gladly take mixing advice
And yup, theres def. a diff between bedroom- and professional mixmastering, thats given
Theres also a diff between the cats that did this track and Jellyroll, as theres a diff between Jellyroll and Dre...
A good engineer can make a weak snare snap and crack for that whip experience, why would he tho?
Just listen to the beat man
Thats ALL we are discussin ITT
Not my engineering or beatmaking skills
Not a near classic Dr. f**king Dre beat
The track YOU presented, thats the convo...
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Post by owlbrainz on Jul 25, 2023 6:40:02 GMT -5
Sccit dont argue with this bum pigeon about beats and mixing
He has no ear hes tone def
He follows whatever rules an article he reads tells him
He cant top you
Or me
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Post by pigeonmike on Jul 25, 2023 6:51:03 GMT -5
Sccit dont argue with this bum pigeon about beats and mixing He has no ear hes tone def He follows whatever rules an article he reads tells him He cant top you Or me Bwahaha thats rich I aint tryna top none of yall Not even on my radar you sweet soul |
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Post by sccit on Jul 25, 2023 8:25:13 GMT -5
Sccit dont argue with this bum pigeon about beats and mixing He has no ear hes tone def He follows whatever rules an article he reads tells him He cant top you Or me lmao i’m not guna lie, when he gave out that advice i truly expected to hear some masterful productions and was open to it as there’s always room for growth and this is no slight to him, but clearly he’s in no position to be talking about what snares should sound like and how to properly mix a track lol i’m not “turning tables,” i’m keepin it 100 wit him and he thinks he can tell a seasoned professional like siccraised how to produce with those internet projects he’s doin .. that’s a clear lack of humility which wont get him very far that’s like me giving advice to dr. dre on how a bass should be layered 😂 it’s all good tho, you can take a look at what people outside this forum fulla weirdos actually think by reading the feedback on rbx page www.instagram.com/reel/Cu5ytR4ug3u/?igshid=YzcxN2Q2NzY0OA==or check comments on youtube video in OP the universal reception outside of this forum speaks for itself |
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Post by owlbrainz on Jul 25, 2023 12:05:02 GMT -5
Yea man u wanna talk music, mixing etc
talk to me
im the best to ever post here on this weirdo forum
thats my production and mixing. Im first verse rapping too
another production and mix
i rap on verse 2
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Post by sccit on Jul 25, 2023 15:57:03 GMT -5
Yea man u wanna talk music, mixing etc talk to me im the best to ever post here on this weirdo forum thats my production and mixing. Im first verse rapping too another production and mix i rap on verse 2 good work 🫡 i’ll give you that since i don’t really consider myself a regular poster on this site stay grindin homie |
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Post by diagrams on Jul 25, 2023 16:50:24 GMT -5
If you hate dusty sounding boom bap what are you doing on this site
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Post by sccit on Jul 25, 2023 17:22:11 GMT -5
If you hate dusty sounding boom bap what are you doing on this site never said i did |
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Post by owlbrainz on Jul 25, 2023 17:33:47 GMT -5
If you hate dusty sounding boom bap what are you doing on this site never said i did Did u produce the album? |
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Post by sccit on Jul 25, 2023 17:50:40 GMT -5
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Post by diagrams on Jul 25, 2023 18:00:02 GMT -5
we got some real weirdo incels on this site tho guaranteed none of you hatin bumped “nightstalker” in the whip that s**t BANGS .. clowns listenin to some undeground boom bap lyrical miracle shiit that sound like it was mastered by a 10 year old paraplegic this buckthedevil weirdo said that “nightstalker” had a bunch of fast hi hats.. but the beat has literally no hi hats 🤔 clowns need to get out the basement 1 time Yes you did |
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Post by owlbrainz on Jul 25, 2023 18:43:45 GMT -5
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Post by sccit on Jul 25, 2023 18:59:31 GMT -5
we got some real weirdo incels on this site tho guaranteed none of you hatin bumped “nightstalker” in the whip that s**t BANGS .. clowns listenin to some undeground boom bap lyrical miracle shiit that sound like it was mastered by a 10 year old paraplegic this buckthedevil weirdo said that “nightstalker” had a bunch of fast hi hats.. but the beat has literally no hi hats 🤔 clowns need to get out the basement 1 time Yes you did never said anything bout “dusty” .. i’m talkin bout the lyrical miracle super underground internet emcee type shiit them low level sonics that you can’t turn up loud in a system witout that shiit piercing your ears i love east coast boom bap when done right … premo is a top 5 producer to me |
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Post by pigeonmike on Jul 25, 2023 20:09:42 GMT -5
never said anything bout “dusty” .. i’m talkin bout the lyrical miracle super underground internet emcee type shiit them low level sonics that you can’t turn up loud in a system witout that shiit piercing your ears i love east coast boom bap when done right … premo is a top 5 producer to me So your emphasis is on sonics and not melody or aesthetic, I get it, you wanna turn up in the whip by all means do that That doesnt change the fact that that single lacks soul Yup Premier is the goat |
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Post by sccit on Jul 25, 2023 20:32:40 GMT -5
never said anything bout “dusty” .. i’m talkin bout the lyrical miracle super underground internet emcee type shiit them low level sonics that you can’t turn up loud in a system witout that shiit piercing your ears i love east coast boom bap when done right … premo is a top 5 producer to me So your emphasis is on sonics and not melody or aesthetic, I get it, you wanna turn up in the whip by all means do that That doesnt change the fact that that single lacks soul Yup Premier is the goat doesnt lack soul, it’s simple .. hard hittin drums over a movie sample that’s like sayin “grindin” lacks soul the soul is in the raps that compliment the bang not liking it is one thing .. but i don’t say wu tang lacks a melodic groove or warren g lacks hard lyricism. there’s a lane for everything and that’s what u need to focus on if you wana take your productions to the next level. perfecting YOUR lane, not worrying about incorporating elements into your lane that don’t mesh. there’s plenty of soul in torpor .. shiit, a good portion of it was produced with live instrumentation .. but nightstalker is something totally different. judging it for the melodies is retarded homie. |
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Post by pigeonmike on Jul 25, 2023 20:50:47 GMT -5
So your emphasis is on sonics and not melody or aesthetic, I get it, you wanna turn up in the whip by all means do that That doesnt change the fact that that single lacks soul Yup Premier is the goat doesnt lack soul, it’s simple .. hard hittin drums over a movie sample that’s like sayin “grindin” lacks soul the soul is in the raps that compliment the bang not liking it is one thing .. but i don’t say wu tang lacks a melodic groove or warren g lacks hard lyricism. there’s a lane for everything and that’s what u need to focus on if you wana take your productions to the next level. perfecting YOUR lane, not worrying about incorporating elements into your lane that don’t mesh. there’s plenty of soul in torpor .. shiit, a good portion of it was produced with live instrumentation .. but nightstalker is something totally different. judging it for the melodies is retarded homie. Its obvious you really, really believe in yourself, your team and your shared dream - cant front on that, its the right thing to do Yall have a following, an audience that supports the movement, and some legacy players ready to invest their time and talents in collaboration w yall, thats dope Best of luck w your future endeavors and keep GRINDING - yall came a long way from soundclick beats and horrorcore demos |
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Post by sccit on Jul 25, 2023 21:17:27 GMT -5
doesnt lack soul, it’s simple .. hard hittin drums over a movie sample that’s like sayin “grindin” lacks soul the soul is in the raps that compliment the bang not liking it is one thing .. but i don’t say wu tang lacks a melodic groove or warren g lacks hard lyricism. there’s a lane for everything and that’s what u need to focus on if you wana take your productions to the next level. perfecting YOUR lane, not worrying about incorporating elements into your lane that don’t mesh. there’s plenty of soul in torpor .. shiit, a good portion of it was produced with live instrumentation .. but nightstalker is something totally different. judging it for the melodies is retarded homie. Its obvious you really, really believe in yourself, your team and your shared dream - cant front on that, its the right thing to do Yall have a following, an audience that supports the movement, and some legacy players ready to invest their time and talents in collaboration w yall, thats dope Best of luck w your future endeavors and keep GRINDING - yall came a long way from soundclick beats and horrorcore demos oh yea of course i believe in my team .. when u got the glove, jellyroll, 1500 or nothin, big hutch, daz dillinger etc producing wit u it would be dumb not to lol but yea bruh, keep checking for us. and like i said, keep your foot on the gas til you get to where you want to be 🫡 if you ever need anything, hit my dm .. i learned from the best and always willin to share game wit cats who really bout it. |
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Post by buckthadevil on Jul 25, 2023 22:03:48 GMT -5
The RBX beat is weak, period. Pigeon hit it on the head when he said it ain’t got soul. Perfect way to describe it. Don’t compare this thin a** beat to Clipse Grindin’ neither. You sound dumb af. THAT s**t got soul and you don’t get it.
I heard Pigeon’s s**t. His s**t BLAZES this wack RBX s**t man. And here he comes giving you solid advice and what do you do? Try to pull his rank and tell him how he should do his s**t. Fukk outta here already.
You’re the fkn weirdo dude. Just read your s**t in here. You sound like a fkn baby and an ignorant know it all.
Take the knowledge given out by others dikkhead and stop defending that wack a** track. It sucks dude.
“But did you listen to it in the WHIP??”
Fukk outta here. I ain’t playing that wack a** bullsht in my ride. You must be mad.
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